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Occasionally something is said to me that shocks
me.
Immediately following is the most dangerous
church family "positional statement"
that I have ever read in my entire life!!
I've heard it said but I had never actually seen it in
writing. Recently (added
6-25-2010) the "Executive" Pastor of a
North Carolina church emailed their church family position
statement concerning marriage, divorce and divorce
& remarriage. The following is a direct cut and paste
from their doctrinal statement and is by far the most dangerous
statement that I have ever read in my life: Their
Pastors teach:
(church family statement)
"Christians that have remarried after a non-biblical divorce
need to repent of
their past sin, but
are not obligated or free to correct their past error by
divorcing their current spouse"
(the
red and underline
highlight is my addition)
FYI: You
need to know that this church ministry doesn't provide a single
verse
of Scripture for their
new doctrine. I have asked their Executive
Pastor for their Scriptural foundation for this heresy and he
hasn't
provided those Scriptures.
God's
command as written to the Church, to you and me is:
Romans 6:1-2,
"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that
grace may abound?
[2] Certainly
not! How shall we who died to sin live
any longer in it?" That
statement is the most dangerous statement that I have ever read in
my life because: 1)
the authors of
their church family doctrine are knowingly and willfully changing
the very command of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ!
2)
The logical progression of sinful mankind (the sin
nature) is that if the sin of
remarriage doesn't have to be
stopped, then my sin doesn't have to be stopped
either. It
can be rightly said that if adulterers are allowed
membership and leadership status, how can
you exclude the homosexuals and any other "alternate
lifestyle living arrangement" individual from
membership and leadership?! (See the
congressional movement concerning this issue and what
it is going to mean to the 501c3 church (church ministry
and property tax status) and membership tax exemptions -- Link>>>
immediate
action.
The
Scriptural proof for point #2 is
found in
A) Ecclesiastes
8:11, "Because the sentence against an evil work is not
executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set
in them to do evil."
Note the progression:
a) an evil work, singular
progresses to
b) the sons of men, plural!
This
is a parallel truth to:
B) 1
Corinthians 5:6, "Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that
a little leaven leavens the whole lump?"
Note
the progression:
a) a little leaven, a small amount
progresses to
b) leavens the whole, all becomes
leavened! Readers, the words "Repent" and
"Repentance" are found in the Word of God a minimum
110 times. The combination of the terms repent,
repentance and turn from are found in the Scriptures a minimum
of 181 times. Each and every time
these words are found they mean that
what ever is in reference is to "cease
/ stop" immediately. When our Lord says to you
and me to repent, He means stop, stop and don't ask
questions, just stop it. To teach that
someone "needs to repent of
their past sin, but are not obligated or free to correct
" is
a very dangerous heresy!!
The following three statements shocked
me:
Shocking
Statement
#1:
Concerning Church membership, one Church leader said "we don't care if you've been married and divorced ten
times."
Shocking
Statement #2:
"Our Assistant Pastor
is divorced and he isn't remarried, yet."
Shocking
Statement #3: (What this Brother said to me totally shocked
me because he has been
the Pastor of a fundamental Baptist Church family for almost 30
years.)
My
wife and I were invited to visit his local Church fellowship
after being told by a member that they had
recently had a major membership war over the issue of divorce and
remarriage; his Pastor had taken the hard (unpopular) stand
against divorce and remarriage and many of the members left the
Church family. One
morning, after the worship service, my wife and I were discussing
divorce and remarriage with his Pastor and he said to me, with my
wife at my side, "Brother, I have thoroughly
studied the Bible from cover to cover and I have never
found a single verse of Scripture that allows for remarriage
following a divorce." The Lord led me to press
this issue just one step further with the question,
"do
you have the divorced and remarried in the membership," he replied, "we do not have
the divorced and remarried in positions of leadership."
My spirit witnessed to me that he was hedging the truth, why
didn't he answer my question? As we were leaving, this
Brother promised to call me so we could discuss fellowship.
We attended several more worship services and our phone never
rang. Out of disappointment and frustration I asked the same question in a
letter and he responded with, "we have some divorced and remarried in our membership
just as we have other members who are disobedient to the Word of God in their
lives."
This Pastor has been the Pastor of that Church family for almost
thirty years and yet, in violation of his own knowledge of the
Word of God, he has allowed the divorced and remarried to be
members of the Church family of which God has made him an
Overseer and Protector.
Of the
three shocking statements, Statement
#3 is more disturbing,
disappointing, discouraging and shocking because I simply do not
understand what this Pastor is thinking. We're fairly close
in age and I'm sure that he remembers, just as I do, when our Christian families
and Church family memberships were strong, vibrant and growing.
All
three answers
indicate that God's doctrine concerning the sanctity and
permanence of marriage isn't highly esteemed by the Pastor or
Church leaders, and,
even more attention getting is that they are
indicating that willful
disobedience to God's known will isn't to be feared.
Personally, I confess to you that there are times when I frankly
do not know if I obey the Word of God by faith or -- am I simply
afraid of the Lord's anger? The Apostle Paul
said:
"Wherefore we
labor,
that, whether present or absent,
we may be accepted of
Him. [10] For
we must all appear before the judgment seat
[Bema Seat] of
Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
[11] Knowing therefore the
terror
[Greek word Phobos
means exceeding fear] of the
Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your
consciences, 2 Corinthians 5:9-11."
The
writer of the letter to the dispersed Hebrews wrote:
"How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace?
[30] For we know Him who said, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay." And again,
"The Lord will judge His people."
[31] It is a
terrifying {*Greek phoberos)
thing to fall into the hands of the living
God, Hebrews 10:29-31.
The
letter to the Hebrews is written to the saved and unsaved
Hebrews. The context of these three verses is in
conversation with the saved / Christian Hebrews and the writer,
under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, is warning them to not
turn away from their obedient faith that they had previously
demonstrated. To do that would bring about the angry
discipline of God in their lives. *The Greek word, phoberos,
means frightful, i.e. (object) formidable :-
fearful, terrible
This
next section contains
reasons Pastors have
given me
for disobeying their convictions.
Before
reading their reasons, the following are three
very important verses for you to consider
as you read
them.
I'm not being mean spirited. I'm attempting to warn
and
encourage you in the truth!
Revelation 21:8
"But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral,
sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars
shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second
death."
Remember, these men will assure you that they
are saved individuals, after all,
they are....Pastors!!
Revelation 21:27
"But there shall by no means enter it
(Heaven) anything that defiles,
or causes an abomination or a
lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book of Life."
Remember, these men will assure you that they
are saved individuals, after all,
they are....Pastors!!
Revelation 22:15
"But outside
(Heaven) are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters,
and whoever loves and practices a
lie."
Remember, these men will assure you that they
are saved individuals, after all,
they are....Pastors!!
The following
are actual quotes and not
hearsay or gossip:
As
you read the following, ask yourself, is this my Pastor or the
Minister who officiated my wedding?
**A
number of years ago a Pastor
in a neighboring city thought it would be very helpful if my wife and I became
members of his ministry and gave him a helping hand. Before joining his
ministry I gave him my "Philosophy of Ministry" manuscript that gives
great detail about our convictions concerning divorce and divorce / remarriage.
After several months of helping the ministry by teaching a singles and married
couples class, one of the deacons called and asked to meet with me. He started
the conversation by telling me that he was divorced and remarried and "he
was very sure that my wife and I were not aware of his situation." He
also wanted me to know that at the next annual business meeting, of the five men
to be considered for the "Office of Deacon," three were divorced men
whose divorced wives were still living and that two of those men would certainly
be elected. The majority of the Deacon's Board would be divorced and remarried men whose divorced wives were still living.
When I confronted
the
Pastor, this
is what I was told:
"Brother. When I graduated from Seminary I didn't believe in
divorce and remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive. In
my very first ministry I was confronted with the issue and I had to make a
decision. Because I believed that the Lord had called me to preach
and ... because I had a family to feed, I made the
decision to preach and feed my family".
Question:
Did this Pastor say that
he had changed his mind about
what the Word of God taught?
Answer: No!
Question: Did he become
a -- just so he could preach?
Question: Is
he remaining in his ministry by ?
**One
Pastor said, "Brother,
if I preached Romans
7:2-4, and 1
Corinthians 7:39, I wouldn't have a church left."
Question:
Did this Pastor say that
he had changed his mind about
what the Word of God taught?
Answer: No!
Question: Did he become
a -- just so he could preach?
Question: Is
he remaining in his ministry by ?
The
following is my personal experience concerning this very issue:
In
1982, I was 37 years old, a husband and a father of three sons (one in junior
high and two in high school) when I was called and installed in my very first ministry.
I had no idea that over 90% of the
membership and visitors were divorced and remarried with a divorced spouse yet
living. I was their Pastor for over six-months when the Lord gave me a message
concerning the sanctity and permanence of marriage and I didn't preach that
message. For two weeks I did not preach that message and the Sunday
morning of the third week, as I was in the kitchen getting ready to leave for
church, our Lord stopped me with a very quiet, "Robert, when are you going
to preach that message I gave you?" Instantly I knew what message it
was and immediately and without any hesitation I TEARFULLY AND FEARFULLY
said to Him, "Lord, if I preach that message 90% of the members and
visitors will not return for the evening service. HE REMAINED SILENT.
Guess what folks? I was correct! After preaching that message, those
members and visitors that were divorced and remarried with a divorced spouse yet
living did not return. The very next day, Monday, following the preaching of that
message -- our mail box began filling up with letters containing checks from
folks we had never heard of or met in our lives.
It was then that I realized that our Lord had just taught me the most
important lesson that I was ever going to learn as a Pastor Shepherd in a very
convincing manner, "the Church
is His Church and not my Church." We had a
conviction then that was reinforced at that time and continues to this very
day that God's work done God's way will never lack God's provisions. We
have never asked anyone, family, friends, Churches or even our Home Mission
for funds to support us in our ministries. Our God doesn't fail His servants!! When our God calls --
He empowers! When He empowers He pays the
bills!!! 37 years of age was over 30 years ago. Since that remarkable
Sunday of my very first Pulpit ministry, I've Pastored Churches, Interim Pastored
Churches, Pulpit supplied, have been guest speaker, closed, reorganized and
started Churches. I'm now almost 70 years old and our Lord is yet being
faithful!
Today,
this web site continues reaching folks across our globe with the truths from
the Word of God concerning Salvation in and through the shedding of our
Saviour, Jesus Christ's blood, His death, burial and His resurrection; the
sanctity and permanence of life (in and out of the womb) and marriage (until
death).
**Many
Pastors have said, "When
I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce and remarriage
while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but"
...the Church that called me had those folks as members."
Question:
Did these Pastors say they had changed their mind
about what the Word of God taught?
Answer: No!
Question: Did
they become
a -- just so
they could preach?
Question: Are
they remaining in ministry by ?
**Very
many Pastors have said, "When
I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce and remarriage
while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but"
...all
of the other men in my area [conference, denomination,
association etc.] are doing it."
Question:
Did these Pastors say they had changed their mind
about what the Word of God taught?
Answer: No!
Question: Did
they become
a -- just so
they could preach?
Question: Are
they remaining in ministry by ?
**I've
heard the following so many times that I've lost count: "When
I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce/remarriage
while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but"
the
members of my congregation told me over and over again that Dr. Herb
Vander Lugt, Radio Bible Class; Dr. Charles Swindoll and Dr.
James Dobson, Focus on the Family all teach that God's mercy and grace
covers this."
Question:
Did these Pastors say they had changed their mind
about what the Word of God taught?
Answer: No!
Question: Did
they become
a -- just so
they could preach?
Question: Are
they remaining in ministry by ?
You've
read the above "actual" Pastoral statements.
Question:
What happens to disingenuous and lying Pastors?
Revelation 21:8
"But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral,
sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second
death."
Revelation 21:27
"But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles,
or causes an abomination or a
lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book of Life."
Revelation 22:15
"But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters,
and whoever loves and practices a
lie."
What
did Jesus teach concerning remarriage?
Matthew 5:32
"but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and
whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery."
Mark 10:11-12
And He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; [12]
and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing
adultery."
Luke 16:18
" who divorces his wife and marries another commits
adultery; and from a husband
."
And His Disciples said,
"If the relationship of the man with his wife is like this, it is better not to marry."
(Matthew 19:10 )
FOUR
QUESTIONS THAT REQUIRE ANSWERS:
QUESTION #1-
Is there a single verse of Scripture in the entire word of God that adultery means something other than adultery?
QUESTION #2-
Is there a single verse of Scripture in the entire word of God that adultery is not sinful?
QUESTION #3-
Is there a single verse of Scripture in the word of God that adultery must not be discontinued
to receive God's forgiveness?
QUESTION #4-
Did Jesus Christ lie when he said through the Apostle Paul, "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?
[2] Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?"
[Romans 6:1-2]
in
a nutshell, Why Church membership or leadership isn't an option
for the divorced and remarried:
1-
God hates divorce [Malachi
2:16a].
Two
questions:
(A) Why would our Righteous God reward someone with
Church family
membership and leadership for living something He
hates?
(B) Would your earthly Dad reward you for doing something
he warned
you in writing, "I hate that"?
2-
God calls divorce a violent and treacherous act, creating
a violent
and treacherous individual who lives a
life of deception [Malachi 2:16b].
Question:
Why would our Righteous God reward anyone with Church
family membership and leadership for living a violent, treacherous
and deceitful lifestyle?
[1 Corinthians
5:8]
3-
Jesus Christ said that divorce comes from hardheartedness,
i.e. (special)
destitution of (spiritual) perception
[Matthew 19:8; Mark 10:5].
Question:
Jesus Christ, the Head of the Church, says to each
one of us that divorce
comes from a hard heart! Why would our Righteous God and Saviour, Jesus Christ,
reward someone with Church family membership and leadership for
living life with a hardened heart?
4-
God warns Church members that divorce and remarriage is a living
lifestyle, 24-7-52, adultery [Romans 7:2-3,
1 Corinthians 7:39] and no
adulterer, Church members
included, will
ever enter into the Kingdom of
God / God's Heaven. The following are
links
to explain why remarriage when
a divorced spouse is yet living
is adultery:
The
irrevocable one flesh relationship;
What
is the seriousness of the "one Flesh Relationship";
The irrevocable wedding vows;
God
will not honor our 21st. Century Church
"Absolution" of sin.
Question:
If folks guilty of living in adultery cannot enter into the
Kingdom of God, God's Heaven, how can they be Church family members and
leaders here on earth? [1 Corinthians 6:10]
5-
God hasn't changed His mind about
divorce and remarriage today.
[Malachi
3:6; Hebrews 13:8]
6-
FACT:
Adulterers,
and all other lifestyle sexual sinners, are specifically
excluded
in writing from attendance, membership and the
Communion
table.
[1 Corinthians 5:11-13].
Question:
If folks living in adultery are excluded
in writing from membership and the Communion Table of the
local Church family, how can they possibly be Pastors or leaders?
7-
Christ warned the Church concerning sexual sins in the Apostle
Paul's
first letter to the Churches at Corinth
[1 Corinthians 5:1 - 7:39].
8-
Christ warns the Corinthian church family again via the Apostle Paul's
second letter to the Churches at Corinth that many had not repented
of
those sexual sins [2 Corinthians 13:21].
9-
Christ's warning is, though they are Church members, they probably
are not even Born Again. [2
Corinthians 13:1-6]
FYI:
It makes no difference who you have been listening to, i.e. Dr.
John McArthur, Dr. Charles Swindoll or Dr. James Dobson (as well
as scores of others). By the way, all three of these
men, Dr.
John McArthur, Dr. Charles Swindoll and Dr. James Dobson call
remarriage, sin. Where the problem is, this is
the only sin (that I personally know of in their ministries)
that they do not teach, preach or live in shoe leather that it
must be stopped. Why is this sin of adultery an
exception? Repentance
means to stop the sin (2 Corinthians 12:21;
Ephesians 5:1-6; Colossians 3:1-6; Romans 6:12-16; 1 Corinthians
6:9-10) and not just admit that it is a sin. To
only admit that a sin is a sin and not stop the sin results in unheard prayers.
Question, are these three men and other Pastors, Church Family
leaders and members guilty of the sin of granting an
"Absolution" for a "particular" sin?
Follow this link -- ABSOLUTION
FOR SIN -- and decide for yourself.
John 9:31
"Now we know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does His will, He hears
him."
Job 27:8-9
"For what is the hope of the hypocrite, though he may gain much, if God takes away his life?
[9] Will God hear his cry when trouble comes upon him?"
Proverbs 1:28
"Then they will call on me, but I will not answer; they will seek me diligently, but they will not find me."
Proverbs 28:9
"One who turns away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer is an abomination."
Isaiah 1:15
"When you spread out your hands, I will hide My eyes from you; even though you make many prayers, I will not hear.
Your hands are full of blood."
Question:
Our Lord has warned us in writing, over and over again.
Why should Pastors, leaders and members
be questioning why their families and ministries are
self-destructing and dying?
If you
are a member of a Church and you are divorced and remarried, and,
your divorced spouse is yet living, you have disqualified yourself from
Church membership. If you were a Pastor of a Church and you
divorced, remarried and your divorced spouse is yet living, you are
disqualified as a Pastor! You did it to yourself.
The
divorced and remarried in Church membership
in greater detail
Link to the divorced and remarried in membership
(in greater detail)
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